Rose Database

[Mustansir Billah]

The pink one is most likely Century Two. Its a pretty common find. I discarded my plant because although its fragrant and you don't want to stick your nose out, flowers last MAX 3 days.

Why Discarded?

[UMARKHANMARDAN]

KBW Super green is great & its in full glory once the weather gets cool. Rafique sb have already posted its pictures in full glory.Its a novelty color from NIRP Roses.But what i am looking for are the novelty colors from NIRP like Aladdin, Amnesia,Edge,New Fashion, Twist, Jean Piat, Vendae Imperial.

[KBW]

KBW Super green is great & its in full glory once the weather gets cool. Rafique sb have already posted its pictures in full glory.Its a novelty color from NIRP Roses.But what i am looking for are the novelty colors from NIRP like Aladdin, Amnesia,Edge,New Fashion, Twist, Jean Piat, Vendae Imperial.

That's great. I would then request Rafiq sahib to post few pictures of Super Green or may be we can wait and monitor the change in bloom colour towards greener side as it gets cooler.

Oh boy, this data base is really getting interactive and I am really enjoying it. I really like the small observations given by members about the behaviour of certain roses. Actually, these small observations mean a lot because they are based on practical experience in a certain area in a certain weather. There is no substitue to this. Keep it up guys

[KBW]

Mustansir bhai,
The first one does not look like a Century II to me, unless the colour in the pics has changed due to light affect. I have two bushes of Century II back in Okara and they performed very well. I love the extra large size flowers, strong scent and the cool pink shade. It has been an outstanding performer and I would never like to discard such a good rose.

Please see the details here...
http://www.gardeningpakistan.com/viewto ... 417#p15417



This bouquet contains Fragrant Cloud (orange), Caprice de Meilland (darkish pink) and Century II (the large and light pink flowers). All summer I used to have a bouquet like this on my bedside and no perfume or air freshner needed.

[UMARKHANMARDAN]

Century two is great rose with sweet perfume. I always enjoy it in my garden in spring. Its color is so clear & the plant has great diseases resistance. Another great rose is Secret KBW if you not mentioned Secrete go through my older posts you will find it there.

[Mustansir Billah]

Mustansir bhai,
The first one does not look like a Century II to me, unless the colour in the pics has changed due to light affect. I have two bushes of Century II back in Okara and they performed very well. I love the extra large size flowers, strong scent and the cool pink shade. It has been an outstanding performer and I would never like to discard such a good rose.

Please see the details here...
http://www.gardeningpakistan.com/viewto ... 417#p15417



This bouquet contains Fragrant Cloud (orange), Caprice de Meilland (darkish pink) and Century II (the large and light pink flowers). All summer I used to have a bouquet like this on my bedside and no perfume or air freshner needed.

Its looks like century 2 to me because of its strong fragrance and bright pink color. Maybe its color and fragrance is disturbed by the hot weather and also its petals are disturbed(in my opinion) due to heat. But it is performing great in hot weather.

[KBW]

Its looks like century 2 to me because of its strong fragrance and bright pink color. Maybe its color and fragrance is disturbed by the hot weather and also its petals are disturbed(in my opinion) due to heat. But it is performing great in hot weather.

You are the best judge brother because you can observe the plant much better than anyone of us. But to me, the flower shade, shape looks different from that of Century 2, even the foliage colour is quite different though foliage shape is somewhat similar. There are numerous roses with strong fragrance so one can't be sure. Please go to HMF and compare the pics of bloom, foliage, growth habit etc with the specimen pics.
regards

[KBW]

114 - Golden Showers


Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken in April 13.



Common Name: Golden Showers
Other Names: ---
Type: Climber, Large-Flowered Climber
Bred by: Dr. Walter E. Lammerts (United States, 1956).
Description:
Yellow. Licorice, tea fragrance. 20 to 30 petals. Average diameter 6". Large bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Climbing.
Height of 10' to 14' (305 to 425 cm). Width of up to 6' (up to 185 cm).
USDA zone 3b through 10b. Shade tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Can be pruned to maintain a shorter habit.


Lineage: Charlotte Armstrong × Captain Thomas (Large Flowered Climber, Thomas, 1935)

Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

[KBW]

115 - Cabana


Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken in April 13.



Common Name: Cabana
Other Names: JACepirt
Type: Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Dr. Keith W. Zary (United States, 2000).
Description:
White, pink stripes, salmon-yellow stripes. Moderate, spice fragrance. 26 to 40 petals. Average diameter 4.5". Large, full (26-40 petals), borne mostly solitary, high-centered to flat, reflexed bloom form. Continuous (perpetual) bloom throughout the season. Pointed, ovoid buds.
Medium, thornless (or almost), upright, well-branched. Medium, glossy, dark green, dense, leathery foliage.
Height of 5' (150 cm). Width of up to 4' (up to 120 cm).
USDA zone 5b and warmer. Can be used for cut flower or garden. Vigorous. heat tolerant. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to blackspot , mildew resistant, rust resistant. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection)


Lineage:
seed:
Seedling × Seedling

pollen:
Bridal Pink ™ (floribunda, Boerner 1967) × Seedling


Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php


Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken in April 13.

[KBW]

116 - Gruss an Teplitz


Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken in April 13.



Common Name: Gruss an Teplitz
Other Names: Virginia R. Coxe, local urdu name Surkha, desi gulab
Type: China / Bengale, Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Rudolf Geschwind (Austria-Hungary (former), before 1897).
Description:
Scarlet. Strong, spice fragrance. 33 petals. Medium to large, double (17-25 petals), borne mostly solitary, cluster-flowered, in small clusters, cupped bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Small, ovoid buds.
Tall, arching, climbing, thornless (or almost). Large, glossy, leathery foliage.
Height of 5' to 6' 7" (150 to 200 cm).
USDA zone 6b through 10b. Can be used for cut flower, garden or hedge. Hardy. vigorous. a good subject for pegging. Disease susceptibility: mildew resistant, rust resistant. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that.
This rose is included in the World Federation of Rose Societies Old Rose Hall of Fame. The Old Rose Hall of Fame recognizes roses of historical or genealogical important and those roses which have enjoyed continued popularity over a great many years.

See also 'Geschwind's Unermüdliche' - a sister seedling.

Additional data received from Erich Unmuth of Vienna, Austria. from the Rosenlexikon compiled by August Jäger 1936.



Lineage:
Tetraploid
seed:
[Sir Joseph Paxton × Fellenberg] × Papa Gontier

pollen:
Gloire des Rosomanes


Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

KBW's Comments
Gruss an Taplitz should have been the first rose in database, or perhaps second (after Rosa centifolia). We see this outstanding rose growing everywhere in Pakistan. It's very hardy, extremely disease resistant, can tolerate extreme neglect and has very elagant strongly perfumed dark pink bloom. It was bread in Austro-Hungarian Empire more than 116 years ago but exact year is not known. It was brought to India by British in early twentieth century. It liked the Subcontinent environment so much that soon it was growing everywhere.

Gruss an Taplitz is not just a rose..... it has become part of our culture. We see the brides and bridegrooms wearing it's garlands, we use it extensively in funerals and in graveyards, we spray it's petals for welcoming our guests. I wonder what we would have done had there been no Gruss an Teplitz. It is the most popular rose for rose farming.

I have seen Gruss an Teplitz growing everywhere in Pakistan, starting from Skardu, Gilgit to Sind and even Karachi. In cooler areas it has a longer flowering season and larger bloom but has few problems too. Though the flower size is relatively small in hot climates, it overall does better in hotter areas. Unfortunately, our rose community has never given Gruss an Teplitz the place that it righly deserves amongst the roses being grown in Pakistan.

I have planned to undertake extensive hybridization programme of Gruss an Teplitz and Rosa centifolia in near future. I hope I will get time to do that.