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Plant Id(Resolved)

Posted: July 25th, 2013, 11:53 pm
by Munir
Boojo tu janay.....a quiz

A Wild Fruit
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A Wild Veggie- a real delicacy
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A home grown Veggie/Herb
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Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 26th, 2013, 12:34 am
by M Farooq
munir wrote:Boojo tu janay.....a quiz
(please don't answer until the rest have attempted :-)

1) cape gooseberry?

2) Asparagus?

3) Saunf/ fennel?

Regards,

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 26th, 2013, 5:13 am
by Tahir Khan
First one looks like a fruit from solanum family...may not be edible

Second one is stapelia also called (Chonga) in Urdu.

Third one looks like an overgrown Asparagus.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 27th, 2013, 9:36 pm
by M Farooq
Munir sahab,

Where are the answers, sir? I gather that you knew the names :-)

Regards.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 27th, 2013, 11:30 pm
by Munir
If there are no more bids, then let me declare that Tahir Khan is right in all three items.The details are:
1. Wild Fruit. It is an edible sour fruit locally known as " Kachmach".I don't know the genetic details but from the net,it looks to be a specie of Solanum genus, where most of the species are poisonous.
2. Wild Veggie. It indeed is "Chaung" in Urdu. It is cooked like "Karaila" & if made properly is very tasty.Though a wild plant,yet I am trying to grow it in the Kitchen garden.
3. A grown Veggie. It is certainly Asparagus, but not overgrown as mentioned by him. In fact it is still very young being around one year, while the Ist real harvesting starts in the 3rd year.So I still have to be patient for another 2 years.
Well doneTahir.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 28th, 2013, 1:19 am
by M Farooq
munir wrote:If there are no more bids, then let me declare that Tahir Khan is right in all three items.The details are:
1. Wild Fruit. It is an edible sour fruit locally known as " Kachmach".I don't know the genetic details but from the net,it looks to be a specie of Solanum genus, where most of the species are poisonous.
2. Wild Veggie. It indeed is "Chaung" in Urdu. It is cooked like "Karaila" & if made properly is very tasty.Though a wild plant,yet I am trying to grow it in the Kitchen garden.
3. A grown Veggie. It is certainly Asparagus, but not overgrown as mentioned by him. In fact it is still very young being around one year, while the Ist real harvesting starts in the 3rd year.So I still have to be patient for another 2 years.
Well doneTahir.
1) Found the ID of no. 1, Kach-mach = Solanum nigrum, in Urdu it is called makoh (a medicinal plant).
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx? ... =200020597

3) What part of Asparagus is eaten? Here the "asparagus" sold is a different looking vegetable, it looks like
http://www.worldcommunitycookbook.org/s ... ragus.html
May be they are one and the same plant.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 4:26 am
by Tahir Khan
munir wrote:If there are no more bids, then let me declare that Tahir Khan is right in all three items.The details are:
1. Wild Fruit. It is an edible sour fruit locally known as " Kachmach".I don't know the genetic details but from the net,it looks to be a specie of Solanum genus, where most of the species are poisonous.
2. Wild Veggie. It indeed is "Chaung" in Urdu. It is cooked like "Karaila" & if made properly is very tasty.Though a wild plant,yet I am trying to grow it in the Kitchen garden.
3. A grown Veggie. It is certainly Asparagus, but not overgrown as mentioned by him. In fact it is still very young being around one year, while the Ist real harvesting starts in the 3rd year.So I still have to be patient for another 2 years.
Well doneTahir.
:D Nice, from where are these edible red berries available ? you must have gathered them from the wild :)

'Chaung' is a type of stapelia a succulent plant it has very intriguing flowers with the smell of rotting flesh YUCKK :lol: i am growing 2 types right now and they are flowering right now :)

How are the asparagus growing here? are they taking the summer heat well :?:

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 4:30 am
by Tahir Khan
What part of Asparagus is eaten? Here the "asparagus" sold is a different looking vegetable, it looks like
http://www.worldcommunitycookbook.org/s ... ragus.html
May be they are one and the same plant.
Farooq sb, young shoots like those in the picture you mentioned in the website are eaten, But apparently Munir sb's plant has grown leaves, the young shoots that have not developed leaves or flowers are cut for consumption.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 5:51 pm
by Munir
M Farooq wrote: 1) Found the ID of no. 1, Kach-mach = Solanum nigrum, in Urdu it is called makoh (a medicinal plant).
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx? ... =200020597

3) What part of Asparagus is eaten? Here the "asparagus" sold is a different looking vegetable, it looks like
http://www.worldcommunitycookbook.org/s ... ragus.html
May be they are one and the same plant.
Item by item:
1) You are right. Both the vern.names 'Kach-mach' & 'Makoh' are given in this link.I didn't know earlier about two being the same thing.
Sharbat e Makoh is well known as a medicine,probably for Jaundice.
2) Tahir,I couldn't find out if 'Chaung' is being formally grown as a veggie;may be some people grow it as a decorational plant bearing flowers.Incidently I have never seen flowers on the wild 'Chaung '. Did you say,you were also growing two types; purpose,as a plant or veggie?
3) Growing it Ist time, therefore, am not certain-but I think the plant itself is in fern form & produces spears/shoots as the end product ie,veggie to be cooked. Pictures of both are given together in link: http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/2 ... s/page/all. Could you please check it further.

Re: Plant Id

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 6:25 am
by Tahir Khan
2) Tahir,I couldn't find out if 'Chaung' is being formally grown as a veggie;may be some people grow it as a decorational plant bearing flowers.Incidently I have never seen flowers on the wild 'Chaung '. Did you say,you were also growing two types; purpose,as a plant or veggie?
3) Growing it Ist time, therefore, am not certain-but I think the plant itself is in fern form & produces spears/shoots as the end product ie,veggie to be cooked. Pictures of both are given together in link: http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/2 ... s/page/all. Could you please check it further
I grow stapelia for ornamental purpose.... yes the chaung veggie stapelia is available from veggie vendors but have never tasted it... and yes stapelia has the most unique flowers and colours are just amazing... you can have brown or blackish flowers on some species of stapelia so it is mostly an ornamental plant, the only drawback is it has smelly flowers like corpse lily :D

Asparagus as you have shown in your garden has past harvesting time... so i would advise to let it grow for next year spear production, cut the plant down to the ground when it dies of freeze. young baby shoots measuring 6-10 inches coming out of the ground are used as vegetable.