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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 3rd, 2013, 4:54 pm

25 - Elina


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Picture contributed by Gardening Pakistan member Rafique of a rose growing at his place in Lahore.


Common Name: Elina
Other Names: Peaudouce, DICjana
Type: Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Colin & Patrick Dickson (United Kingdom, 1984)
Description:
Light yellow. Mild fragrance. 35 petals. Average diameter 6". Large, double (17-25 petals) bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Height of 42" to 4' (105 to 120 cm). Width of 30" to 31" (75 to 80 cm).
USDA zone 7b and warmer. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant, susceptible to Mildew. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection) . Can be grown in the ground or in a container

Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php


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Large sized rose and very fragrant too about 4 inch dia. Picture contributed by Gardening Pakistan member Rafique of a rose growing at his place in Lahore.


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Pictures taken by KBW in a rose garden in Niagara Park, Canada on 14 Oct 13.

KBW's Comments
Look at the size of bloom in first picture. It's around 5.5" which is XXL. Elina, which is called Peaudouce here, seems to have slightly darker shade in cooler climate and the flowers are more "double" in shape. I wish these extraordinarily beautiful roses were more fragrant.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 3rd, 2013, 4:58 pm

26 - Hot Cocoa

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Common Name: Hot Cocoa
Other Names: Hot Chocolate, Kiwi, Nubya, WEKpaltlez
Type: Floribunda
Bred by: Tom Carruth (United States, 2002)
Description:
Russet, darker reverse. Moderate, fruity fragrance. 25 to 30 petals. Average diameter 3". Medium to large, full (26-40 petals), cluster-flowered, in small clusters, cupped, ruffled bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Medium, armed with thorns / prickles, bushy, rounded. Large, glossy, dark green foliage.
Height of 35" to 45" (90 to 115 cm). Width of 4½' (135 cm).
USDA zone 6b and warmer. Can be used for beds and borders, container rose, cut flower or garden. Benefits from winter protection in colder climates. heat tolerant. rain tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that.

Lineage: seed: Playboy × Altissimo ® (LCl, Delbard, 1966)
pollen: Livin' Easy ™


Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

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The pictures have been contributed by Gardening Pakistan member Rafique of a rose growing at his place in Lahore.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 3rd, 2013, 5:07 pm

27 - Rosa laevigata

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Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Mardan. Taken in Apr 12.
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Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Mardan. Taken in Apr 12.


Common Name: Rosa Laevigata
Other Names: Snow-White Rose, Rosier Blanc de Neige, R. nivea, R. amygdalifolia, R. argyi, Rosa cucumerin, R. sinica, R. ternata
Type: Species / Wild
Bred by: ---------
Description:
White, yellow stamens. Strong fragrance. 5 petals. Average diameter 3.5". Large, single (4-8 petals), borne mostly solitary, cupped-to-flat bloom form. Moderate, once-blooming spring or summer. Medium buds.
Tall, armed with thorns / prickles, climbing, mounded, sends out runners. Large, glossy, dark green foliage. 3 to 5 leaflets.
Height of up to 25' (up to 760 cm). Width of up to 15' (up to 455 cm).
USDA zone 7a through 11. Very vigorous. can be grown as a shrub. can be trained as a climber. heat tolerant. produces decorative hips. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant.

André Michaux described Rosa laevigata in Flora Boreali-Americana (1803) from specimens located in the Southern state of Georgia in the USA. The same rose, from China, had been given the name Rosa sinica earlier, in 1789, and was described as in cultivation in 1759. But because the same name, R. sinica, was also used by Linneaus to describe the China rose Rosa chinensis, the name was found to be invalid by Crépin under the rules of taxonomy.

Rosa laevigata Michaux is native to the sub-tropical parts of S.E. China and Vietnam, is naturalized over large areas in the American South, and is not reliably hardy in the USA below Zone 7

Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

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Picture contributed by UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Mardan. Taken in Apr 12.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 3rd, 2013, 5:13 pm

28. Jabar bin Hayan


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Common Name: Jabar bin Hayan
Type: Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Changa Nurseries, Pattoki
Description:
Named after famous Muslim scientist, Jabar bin Hayan has purple large size flowers in typical English rose shape. This rose has been locally bread in Changa Nurseries Pattoki.

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Pictures have been contributed by Gardening Pakistan member Rafique from his collection of roses at his place in Lahore.

PS: I would request Rafique sahib and others who have the experience to grow Jabir bin Hayan to share their experience of growing this rose. It performance in various months of the year, disease resistance, growth rate etc. The same will be updated in this database.
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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by UMARKHANMARDAN » April 4th, 2013, 12:21 am

Great job KBW.Its really a great work brother.another thing if we have local bred varieties then i,l go for locals.we should support the local breeders like well known Changa nursery.Jaffer bin Hayyan is great rose.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by UMARKHANMARDAN » April 4th, 2013, 1:20 am

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Plese I.D this one.some times i forget the names.
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Also I.D this floribanda rose.its not an iceberg.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 4th, 2013, 1:52 am

29. Shocking Blue


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Common Name: Shocking Blue
Other Names: KORblue
Type: Floribunda, Florists Rose
Bred by: Reimer Kordes (Germany, 1985)
Description:
Mauve or purple blend. Strong fragrance. up to 28 petals. Average diameter 3.5". Large, full (26-40 petals), high-centered, open bloom form. Continuous (perpetual) bloom throughout the season.
Thornless (or almost), upright, well-branched. Large, leathery foliage.
Height of 30" to 4' (75 to 120 cm). Width of up to 2' (up to 60 cm).
USDA zone 7b and warmer. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection) . Can be grown in the ground or in a container

Lineage: Zorina × Silver Star ® (hybrid tea, Kordes 1966)


Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

Pictures have been contributed by Gardening Pakistan member UMERKHANMARDAN from his collection of roses in Islamabad.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 4th, 2013, 1:56 am

30. Perfect Moment


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Picture contributed by Gardening Pakistan member UMARKHANMARDAN from his collection in Islamabad.


Common Name: Perfect Moment
Other Names: Jack Dayson, KORwilma
Type: Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Wilhelm Kordes III (b. 1953) (Germany, 1989)
Description:
Red, yellow reverse, red edges, yellow undertones. Mild, fruity fragrance. 30 to 35 petals. Average diameter 4.25". Large, full (26-40 petals), borne mostly solitary, cluster-flowered, in small clusters, exhibition, high-centered, pinpoint centers bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Medium, long buds.
Armed with thorns / prickles, upright, well-branched. Medium, matte, dark green, dense, leathery foliage. 5 leaflets.
Height of 4' to 5½' (120 to 165 cm). Width of 30" to 4' (75 to 120 cm).
USDA zone 7b and warmer. Can be used for cut flower, exhibition or garden. Vigorous. heat tolerant. rain tolerant. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to disease, susceptible to blackspot , susceptible to Mildew, rust resistant. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection

Lineage: New Day × Seedling


Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php


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Above three pics were taken by me in a friends house in Bahawalpur during mid May 2013. At that time, it was already quite hot in Bahawalpur but as you can see, the bushes are doing quite well and are full of bloom (though the prime spring period in Bahawalpur has already passed). The size of the flower in view has gone small as compared to the size that we see in Islamabad or Quetta (Quetta is extra large size). This speaks about the versatility of this rose with regards to its adaption to varying climates. It performs very well in cold climate of Quetta which again strengthens my observation that roses which perform well in very cold climates perform reasonably well in very hot climates as well.

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 4th, 2013, 2:08 am

31 - Fourth of July


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Common Name: Fourth of July
Other Names: Climbing Fourth Of July, Crazy for You, Hanabi, WEKroalt
Type: Large-Flowered Climber
Bred by: Tom Carruth (United States, 1999)
Description:
Red blend, stripes. Apple, rose fragrance. Average diameter 2". Large, semi-double (9-16 petals) bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Climbing.
Height of 43" to 15' (110 to 455 cm). Width of 26" to 6' (65 to 185 cm).
USDA zone 6a through 9b. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant

Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

Picture has been contributed by Gardening Pakistan member UMERKHANMARDAN's from his collection of roses growing in Islamabad

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Re: Rose Identification Thread

Post by KBW » April 4th, 2013, 2:13 am

32. Fragrant Cloud


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Picture contributed by UMARKAHNMARDAN from his collection of roses growing in Islamabad.

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Picture contributed by UMARKAHNMARDAN from his collection of roses growing in Islamabad.

Common Name: Fragrant Cloud
Other Names: Duftwolke ®, Nuage Parfumé ®, TANellis
Type: Hybrid Tea
Bred by: Mathias Tantau, Jr. (1912 - 2006) (Germany, 1963)
Description:
Coral-red, ages to geranium-red . Strong, citrus, damask, fruity, spice fragrance. 27 to 35 petals. Average diameter 5". Very large, full (26-40 petals), borne mostly solitary, cluster-flowered, in small clusters, high-centered bloom form. Prolific, blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Armed with thorns / prickles, upright. Glossy, dark green foliage.
Height of 30" to 5' (75 to 150 cm). Width of 2' (60 cm).
USDA zone 7b through 10b. Can be used for beds and borders, cut flower or garden. Hardy. vigorous. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to blackspot , susceptible to Mildew. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection) . Can be grown in the ground or in a container

Lineage: Tetraploid
Prima Ballerina ® (hybrid tea, Tantau, 1957) × Montezuma (grandiflora, Swim, 1955)


Above written information has been taken from http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

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This picture is from a bush growing at my home in Okara.

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These pictures were taken in Okara during early June when the temperatures were touching 43*C. As you can see, Fragrant Cloud is still performing quite well.

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This picture is of the same bush in Okara taken by end Jun when the temperatures had touched 47*C for a couple of days and mostly remained over 43*C. Fragrant Cloud is still blooming though the bloom size has reduced drastically and is not even half of its size in spring. The scent has also reduced in the hotter month however, it is still providing some colour to the landscape.

Fragrant Cloud has been a very successful rose for the hotter areas of Pakistan. In very cold areas like Quetta and Skardu, it may not survive winters well unless the routes are well protected during winters. I grew Fragrant Cloud in Quetta as well and we had to do winter mulching. However, when it survives the winters, one is rewarded with a bloom of extraordinary size during spring, much bigger than what we get here in Punjab. The scent is also stronger in cooler climates.

AWARDS: One of the 15 roses so far Inducted in ROSE HALL OF FAME. Inducted in 1981.

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